III Jornades, day 2
I did my i18n workshop this evening, and I'm not too sure about the result.
First, the computers at the computer lab didn't work, so we had to use a
KDE-based Live-CD, which only had one of the 4 translation tools (KBabel) I
wanted to demo. The USB stick with my OpenOffice presentation, for some reason,
had the old version from yesterday night, and I was missing most of my slides,
so I had to do the presentation from memory. Finally, I had no projector, so I
had to write some of the URLs and gettext examples by hand in the chalkboard.
Despite this, I think the people got the idea, and next time I do it it'll be
better, hopefully.
tbm just whines about being hungry, and Robert and Guillem are planning
staying all night in the University hacking their KFreeBSD port.
Quite insane... Amaya and Ian are completely MIA since a few hours ago and
don't answer our calls. They are going to miss today's dinner...
Sergio and I need to leave tomorrow at 7:30AM, unfortunately. The rest will
stay until Saturday, when tbm will speak about Debian and Robert and Guillem
about Debian GNU/K*BSD.
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First day at Manresa
We have arrived at Manresa,
after a longish drive from Valencia. Poor
Ian is still suffering a bad jet-lag,
and Amaya is still not
convinced about my very clear arguments regarding Valencian and Catalan. She
will give in before Friday, and it's actually true she's learning Catalan...
she's asking all of us to speak Catalan with her. We have already met
Guillem and
Robert at the University, as well
as Aleix Badia, the restless Catalan translator in our team. Guillem and Robert
have gone to the airport to pick up
tbm, who should be here
soon, and then we'll go to the youth hostal and have some dinner. Sergio and I
are trying to quickly finish up our talk and workshop for tomorrow. I hope I'll
manage to finish it on time...
Once again, I couldn't ressist taking my training shoes with me, even if I
know the chances of me going out to run for a while are minimal. tbm will want
to make fun of this... again.
Update: Sergio
stole my title. And Amaya is using Windows XP.
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Jornades de Programari Lliure at Manresa
Tomorrow, Ian Murdock,
Amaya,
Sergio and I will head to Manresa,
near Barcelona, to attend to the
III Jornades de Programari Lliure,
after the first two arrive to Valencia from Madrid. In this meeting, Sergio
will talk about
Custom Debian Distributions
and I'll do a workshop on free software localization.
tbm is also coming and
will give a talk about Debian on Saturday. Additionally,
Robert Millan and
Guillem Jover will talk about
Debian GNU/K*BSD,
and giving the Debian Catalan Cabal a nice
opportunity to meet in Real Life and talk about the next steps in the World
Domination Plan.
tbm wants to go to the beach, so you lot should be taking a swimming suit
just in case. Ok, admittedly, I want to go too. :)
The meeting has a lot more Debian presence than the organizers expected at
the beginning. Besides, lots of people from
Softcatalà and a few other projects I
contribute to will be present, and I'm looking forward to meet them too. See
you all in Manresa!
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GNOME 2.6 in Sarge status update
I haven't posted about this in a while, mostly due to lack of news.
As it stands now, the biggest problem with the GNOME components in Sarge is
gedit not starting, and the easies solution is still to
hand-fix it.
This is due to the big gnutls10 transition still being stalled. The biggest
problem today is kdelibs, which is waiting for a qt3 build on m68k. Hopefully,
with a bit of luck, this will be resolved soon and the release mages will be
able to cast the spell that makes kdelibs, GNOME stuff, Samba, CUPS and others
enter Sarge at once.
Another of the GNOME problems is the lack of gst-plugins0.8 in Sarge. This
is stalling gnome-applets, gnome-media and a few more. The problem this time
is jack-audio-connection-kit, which is missing an alpha build and a few days
of wait. With lully up and running again (apparently), one hopes that jack will
be ready to go soon, thus removing a good list of packages needed by
meta-gnome in testing.
Speaking of meta-gnome2, I uploaded version 56 today, adding an alternative
for mozilla-xft, which has been replaced by the normal mozilla build. Little
after my upload, mozilla-browser was corrected to declare a
Provides: mozilla-xft, but I guess it won't harm anyone to have the
alternative there for a while.
My libgnetwork packages were accepted, but failed to build do to a compile
warning on some arches mixed with the usage of -Werror. I'll fix
soonish, hopefully.
I need to translate gstreamer.
Maybe tonight.
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GNU mailutils and nano releases
It's becoming a tradition that my upstreams coordinate the releases of the
Debian packages I maintain.
GNU mailutils 0.5 and
GNU nano 1.2.4 have been
released in the last two days.
With mailutils 0.5,
Jeff and I
have decided to stop packaging CVS snapshots in Debian, as the software is now
quite stable and usable. It surely needs some documentation love, but it'll
get there. <plug>MH users might want to test mailutils-mh,
which is GNU's
replacement for the MH
package</plug>.
nano 1.2.4 is a minor update, with a few bugfixes, given 1.2 has been in
maintenance mode for about one year and a half. In the devel branch, nano
1.3.3 should be released RSN, and the next version should finally have sane
UTF-8 support. Very probably not soon enough to ship with Sarge, though.
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More GNOME in Sarge status
Sorry, I know this might be boring, but people seem to want me to post here
whenever there's news.
Things have improved quite noticeably since yesterday. control-center has
finally entered testing today, so after your next sarge upgrade, your icons
should show up as normal again. There gedit problem stands unsolved, and it'll
take a while, so if you're annoyed at it, consider
hand-fixing
it.
Other good news is that epiphany and galeon have also entered testing, even
when Mozilla 1.7 had been uploaded to unstable, managing to avoid the new
dependency. A new epiphany for Mozilla 1.7 has been uploaded and I guess galeon
will follow suit quickly.
Slightly unrelated, I uploaded meta-gnome2 55 today, adding
gnome-cups-manager to the gnome meta-package, and the nice HIG
documentation to gnome-devel. Spies report that
Ross is happy now.
France was kicked out of Euro 2004, too. It's interesting to see how all the
big favourites have been sent home quite early.
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Status of GNOME 2.6 in Sarge
As people have been asking for news on the
semi-disaster, here we go.
Things haven't really improved in the last week. gnome-control-center
2.6 hasn't entered testing yet, but is abou to do so. We're just missing a mips
build, which has already been done by the buildd, so hopefully it'll appear in
incoming in one or two days. Another of the problematic packages,
gnome-applets, is in bad shape, as it hasn't been built in some architectures
due to a bug in sgml-base, completely out of the control of the GNOME team.
We hope this will be resolved soonish and builds start so succeed after that.
There's another problem in the current set of GNOME packages in Sid, as gedit
refuses to start now that libeel is at version 2.6. This is due to API
breakages in eel which are not well handled upstream with soname bumps. This
bug has been
reported
multiple
times,
and the bug has been
forwarded upstream,
but the upstream maintainers don't intend to maintain API compatibility in eel
at all. They claim it's a private library in nautilus, but reality is that it's
used in epiphany, control-center, abiword and others. (don't read this as a
rant, I'm just trying to describe the situation). The easiest way of fixing
this problem in Debian is to add unstable sources to apt, install the unstable
version of gedit (2.6.x), which will pull new cupsys, libgnomeprint, kdelibs4
(if you have it installed) version. Then remove unstable again from your
sources, and you'll end up having a working gedit.
On a unrelated note, those who want to play with GNOME 2.7.x can do so
by upgrading to experimental. Some GNOME folks have started packaging it.
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tbm's hackerhead
Luvly! We need
a GR to ammend the Constitution to make Debian a monarchy.
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WARNING: GNOME mayhem in Sarge
Sigh. Yesterday, most of GNOME hit Sarge, and today it reached the mirrors.
It seems the result couldn't be more catastrophic... we really didn't expect
GNOME packages to go into Sarge today, we probably only expected GTK+2.0 and
a few of the lower GNOME libraries to make it. Instead, most of the modules
managed to get in, including -panel, -session, -terminal and nautilus, but
not including control-center and -applets, due to gst-plugins0.8 not
being ready for testing yet.
This reportedly is breaking GNOME in Sarge quite severily, as nautilus is
apparently missing a needed dependency on capplets, and nobody noticed. The
result is nautilus showing the default icon (a blank paper) for all folder
and file icons, making your filebrowsing experience quite interesting.
We're discussing what the most quick remedy may be. One alternative is to
do uploads of -applets and control-center without gstreamer support and try
to get those in fast. Another one is to see if testing-proposed-updates works
and feed it with the gstreamer-less packages so they hit testing
immediately.
For those who have already upgraded and need a solution, you will probably
be ok if you just install by hand the missing packages,
capplets 2.6.1-5,
and the two dependencies missing in Sarge,
libgstreamer0.8-0 0.8.3-1 and
libgstreamer-plugins0.8-0 0.8.1-4.
You will probably need to remove acme by hand too (and
gnome-desktop-environment, if you had it installed).
If you don't know how to do this, the basics are these: to remove acme, do
apt-get --purge remove acme. To install the three packages, once
you have downloaded them, apt-get install libxklavier8 and then dpkg -i file1.deb file2.deb file3.deb. If you are a bit more experienced
with Debian packages, the easiest is to add unstable (and leave sarge
in too) to your sources.list, and after updating, do apt-get install
gnome-control-center/unstable. After that, remove unstable from your
sources again.
Bedtime now... In 5 hours I pretend to break my record mark of 10 days
without any kind of triathlon training. The joy of injuries and lack of
motivation.
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ALSA bugpile
They keep coming in, and it seems the three members of the Debian ALSA team
are too busy with RL or other Debian stuff to handle them. We have bugs with
patches that not only have not made their way to unstable, but not even to our
CVS repo.
Maybe we should start considering asking for a 4th member to join the team, in
an attempt to make ALSA packaging a bit more dynamic (as it was some months
ago).
As many will have noticed, I was wrong when I said bits of GNOME would go
in last night. Actually, GTK+2.4 is supossed to make it tonight, and the more
difficult bits will have their chance in the following days. There has been
a gstreamer0.8 upload today to fix a RC bug that may delay stuff a bit. I can
also see possible problems with meta-gnome2 for 2.4 in testing wanting acme,
and control-center 2.6 conflicting it. It probably just means the meta-packages
have to go in at the same time as control-center, but this also adds some
complexity to the equation. Next chapter, after tonight's testing run. :)
It seems there won't be Claxon Hell in the city due to this evening's Euro
2004 football match. FUTBOLEROS, VIVIDORES! ;)
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