Debian's new GR
Yesterday, a
General Resolution
was proposed to decide if the new amd64 architecture is added to the list
of supported architectures in Debian 3.1. After reading the thread (and before
reading it, anyway), I can't agree more with
joeyh's post
on the matter: if Debian as a group can't decide about things like this in a
civilised discussion in the debian-devel mailing list, it probably means we're
fucked. Not so long ago, proposing GR's was an exception, something we got to
when reaching a reasonable consensus was completely impossible, and never for
strictly technical issues like this one. We do need to vote major political
issues like wiping non-free from the archive, or ammendments to the
Constitution or whatever, but voting what architectures we're going to support
in Sarge is wrong.
Sure, it would be very nice to have amd64 in Sarge, but how positive are
the porters that this wouldn't mean yet another delay for our release? How
widely tested is the port, given it hasn't entered unstable officially? I'm all
for it's inclusion in unstable as soon as our infrastructure can deal with it,
but making it mandatory to ship with sarge seems too dangerous to me. Besides,
there are alternatives. There are no precedents, but how crackful would it be
to add the port to Sarge after it is released, say in 3.1r1 or r2? Why
don't we, instead of complaining that not including it would make us not
support in the next 2 years an architecture that will soon become more and
more popular, commit to doing more frequent releases, so this is a not-so-big
issue anyway?
As joeyh and others said, I really hope things change in the future, this
situation makes Debian less and less interesting.
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Firefox locale update
Firefox 0.9 is now in unstable, so it was time to do the matching
mozilla-firefox-locale-ca. Unfortunately, the upstream XPI had the
same problems as the new Thunderbird: by default, it writes the Catalan profile
stuff to the base defaults directory, instead of using a CA/ subdirectory.
It's also missing some files that were present in previous versions, so I have
held the upload until I discuss in the translation mailing list.
On the GNOME front, our chances of getting gst-plugins0.8 and the packages
waiting for them have temporarily vanished, as an upload of gst-plugins0.8 was
made. seb128 has asked David
to ask before doing new uploads, so hopefully things will go better in the
future. We're still missing a build of jack-audio-connection-kit for alpha to
make gst-plugins0.8 a testing candidate. I'm trying to get
jbailey do
the dirty job for us. :)
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GNOME (mostly) sorted in Debian testing!
Last night things finally worked out as we wanted and cupsys, kdelibs,
samba, wine and various GNOME bits managed to entered Sarge. Thanks to all
of you who had the patience to hold off your uploads to help this happen.
And big thanks to vorlon and Kamion for nursing all the stuff.
More surprising is to discover, along with all of the above, that
gstreamer0.8 also made it in testing, at least according to the
testing output interpreter. If this
is true, it would mean all of the important problems of GNOME in testing would
be solved now. In any case, when you apt-get update tonight, you testing users
should finally get a working gedit and other stuff.
Update: I was obviously too sleepy to blog... what we're missing is
gst-plugins0.8, not gstreamer itself.
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Debian package updates
Yesterday after lunch I decided I would spend all the evening doing pending
Debian work. I uploaded mozilla-locale-eu 1.7 for the Basque guys, did my own
mozilla-thunderbird-locale-ca as soon as I spotted thunderbird 0.7.1 in
incoming, then moved to freeciv bug triaging and ended up fixing just two bugs
(other bugs are fixed upstream for 1.15), and finally I did some bug fixing
in alsa-utils, including the annoying alsaconf config path bug. I'm still
missing updates for mozilla-locale-ca (waiting for upstream) and
mozilla-firefox-locale-ca (waiting for the unstable upload), but the Debian
TODO is a lot better now.
gimp-print now has all builds ready to go into testing. Tonight we might go
to bed with the nice surprise of getting the cups stuff sorted out.
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Murphy and the GNOME 2.6 transition
Last evening, the release guys were doing simulations on the cupsys stuff,
and everything looked well: qt3 has been accepted in Sarge, thus unblocking
kdelibs. The Samba RC bug had been temporarily downgraded to help things a bit.
Everything looked bright, and the release team started thinking the transition
would be complete in yesterday's testing run... until we spotted a gimp-print
upload in incoming. This made it not possible to have the transition done last
night, but fortunately, the buildd's reacted promptly and at this time, all
the 11 builds have been
completed successfully,
with just a few remaining to be uploaded to incoming.
The catch: the upload was marked with low priority, so it would have taken
10 days to enter testing. The maintainer was then asked to reupload with a
higher urgency, and that just happenned. Guys, this is bad. If you need to
push some urgency so a package waits less to enter testing, don't do new
uploads just for this. Instead, explain why you need the higher urgency to the
release team (always reachable in
debian-release@lists.debian.org
or #debian-release in Freenode. They can bump these things internally in the
testing scripts.
On a related note, if you maintain a package that directly or indirectly
uses libcupsys, please, please don't do uploads until further notice, or you'll
be blocking the transition further. Thanks.
Obviously Murphy is not on vacation yet... another day passes in the
testing puzzle world.
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III Jornades, day 2
I did my i18n workshop this evening, and I'm not too sure about the result.
First, the computers at the computer lab didn't work, so we had to use a
KDE-based Live-CD, which only had one of the 4 translation tools (KBabel) I
wanted to demo. The USB stick with my OpenOffice presentation, for some reason,
had the old version from yesterday night, and I was missing most of my slides,
so I had to do the presentation from memory. Finally, I had no projector, so I
had to write some of the URLs and gettext examples by hand in the chalkboard.
Despite this, I think the people got the idea, and next time I do it it'll be
better, hopefully.
tbm just whines about being hungry, and Robert and Guillem are planning
staying all night in the University hacking their KFreeBSD port.
Quite insane... Amaya and Ian are completely MIA since a few hours ago and
don't answer our calls. They are going to miss today's dinner...
Sergio and I need to leave tomorrow at 7:30AM, unfortunately. The rest will
stay until Saturday, when tbm will speak about Debian and Robert and Guillem
about Debian GNU/K*BSD.
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First day at Manresa
We have arrived at Manresa,
after a longish drive from Valencia. Poor
Ian is still suffering a bad jet-lag,
and Amaya is still not
convinced about my very clear arguments regarding Valencian and Catalan. She
will give in before Friday, and it's actually true she's learning Catalan...
she's asking all of us to speak Catalan with her. We have already met
Guillem and
Robert at the University, as well
as Aleix Badia, the restless Catalan translator in our team. Guillem and Robert
have gone to the airport to pick up
tbm, who should be here
soon, and then we'll go to the youth hostal and have some dinner. Sergio and I
are trying to quickly finish up our talk and workshop for tomorrow. I hope I'll
manage to finish it on time...
Once again, I couldn't ressist taking my training shoes with me, even if I
know the chances of me going out to run for a while are minimal. tbm will want
to make fun of this... again.
Update: Sergio
stole my title. And Amaya is using Windows XP.
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Jornades de Programari Lliure at Manresa
Tomorrow, Ian Murdock,
Amaya,
Sergio and I will head to Manresa,
near Barcelona, to attend to the
III Jornades de Programari Lliure,
after the first two arrive to Valencia from Madrid. In this meeting, Sergio
will talk about
Custom Debian Distributions
and I'll do a workshop on free software localization.
tbm is also coming and
will give a talk about Debian on Saturday. Additionally,
Robert Millan and
Guillem Jover will talk about
Debian GNU/K*BSD,
and giving the Debian Catalan Cabal a nice
opportunity to meet in Real Life and talk about the next steps in the World
Domination Plan.
tbm wants to go to the beach, so you lot should be taking a swimming suit
just in case. Ok, admittedly, I want to go too. :)
The meeting has a lot more Debian presence than the organizers expected at
the beginning. Besides, lots of people from
Softcatalà and a few other projects I
contribute to will be present, and I'm looking forward to meet them too. See
you all in Manresa!
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GNOME 2.6 in Sarge status update
I haven't posted about this in a while, mostly due to lack of news.
As it stands now, the biggest problem with the GNOME components in Sarge is
gedit not starting, and the easies solution is still to
hand-fix it.
This is due to the big gnutls10 transition still being stalled. The biggest
problem today is kdelibs, which is waiting for a qt3 build on m68k. Hopefully,
with a bit of luck, this will be resolved soon and the release mages will be
able to cast the spell that makes kdelibs, GNOME stuff, Samba, CUPS and others
enter Sarge at once.
Another of the GNOME problems is the lack of gst-plugins0.8 in Sarge. This
is stalling gnome-applets, gnome-media and a few more. The problem this time
is jack-audio-connection-kit, which is missing an alpha build and a few days
of wait. With lully up and running again (apparently), one hopes that jack will
be ready to go soon, thus removing a good list of packages needed by
meta-gnome in testing.
Speaking of meta-gnome2, I uploaded version 56 today, adding an alternative
for mozilla-xft, which has been replaced by the normal mozilla build. Little
after my upload, mozilla-browser was corrected to declare a
Provides: mozilla-xft, but I guess it won't harm anyone to have the
alternative there for a while.
My libgnetwork packages were accepted, but failed to build do to a compile
warning on some arches mixed with the usage of -Werror. I'll fix
soonish, hopefully.
I need to translate gstreamer.
Maybe tonight.
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Huge pile of mail
One of the expected surprises I found when I
came back
from Pont the Suert was a tremendous amount of unfiltered mail (ie, spam +
non-list mail I probably have to reply to). Just one year ago, the alarm bells
would have gone off if my inbox reached 40 mails or so. Today, it's probably
at 400 mails, some of them that I really should reply but I have no time to.
If you're waiting for a reply from me and you don't get it, I suggest you
remail me and insist. IRC and jabber probably works better these days,
though.
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