Wed, 14 Jul 2004

Debian's new GR

Yesterday, a General Resolution was proposed to decide if the new amd64 architecture is added to the list of supported architectures in Debian 3.1. After reading the thread (and before reading it, anyway), I can't agree more with joeyh's post on the matter: if Debian as a group can't decide about things like this in a civilised discussion in the debian-devel mailing list, it probably means we're fucked. Not so long ago, proposing GR's was an exception, something we got to when reaching a reasonable consensus was completely impossible, and never for strictly technical issues like this one. We do need to vote major political issues like wiping non-free from the archive, or ammendments to the Constitution or whatever, but voting what architectures we're going to support in Sarge is wrong.

Sure, it would be very nice to have amd64 in Sarge, but how positive are the porters that this wouldn't mean yet another delay for our release? How widely tested is the port, given it hasn't entered unstable officially? I'm all for it's inclusion in unstable as soon as our infrastructure can deal with it, but making it mandatory to ship with sarge seems too dangerous to me. Besides, there are alternatives. There are no precedents, but how crackful would it be to add the port to Sarge after it is released, say in 3.1r1 or r2? Why don't we, instead of complaining that not including it would make us not support in the next 2 years an architecture that will soon become more and more popular, commit to doing more frequent releases, so this is a not-so-big issue anyway?

As joeyh and others said, I really hope things change in the future, this situation makes Debian less and less interesting.

Firefox locale update

Firefox 0.9 is now in unstable, so it was time to do the matching mozilla-firefox-locale-ca. Unfortunately, the upstream XPI had the same problems as the new Thunderbird: by default, it writes the Catalan profile stuff to the base defaults directory, instead of using a CA/ subdirectory. It's also missing some files that were present in previous versions, so I have held the upload until I discuss in the translation mailing list.

On the GNOME front, our chances of getting gst-plugins0.8 and the packages waiting for them have temporarily vanished, as an upload of gst-plugins0.8 was made. seb128 has asked David to ask before doing new uploads, so hopefully things will go better in the future. We're still missing a build of jack-audio-connection-kit for alpha to make gst-plugins0.8 a testing candidate. I'm trying to get jbailey do the dirty job for us. :)