Mon, 02 Aug 2004

Fahrenheit 9/11

Last night I finally went to see Michael Moore's new documentary. I really wanted to see this film, after enjoying Bowling for Columbine and Stupid White Men a lot. And it didn't deceive me. Fahrenheit 9/11 is probably a better film than Bowling overall, and the first part, where he connects the Bushes with the Saudi elite, is very well conducted. The scene with Bush sitting in Florida during the 7 most terrible minutes in the US history, doing nothing and with an empty expression in his face was both very funny and scary. One could imagine this guy is a fool. But that was just too much.

What I didn't enjoy so much was the part where he shows the US troops in Iraq having a bad time. Moore focuses a lot in the American casualties, and sometimes gave me the impression that the thousands of Iraqi civilians killed were second class deaths. There was also a bit too much of patriotism, but as I guess the ultimate goal of this film is (besides making Michael Moore very rich) enlightening a few millions of Americans before the November election, I guess I can ignore it a bit.

In short, there aren't many facts in the film that I didn't know or assumed, but they are presented in a very intelligent way (call it populism or whatever, yesterday I was open to swallowing some of that). I haven't talked to American people on IRC about what they think, but I'd really like that F9/11 helps to kick Bush out of office. As murrayc said, these elections will have a massive impact in the lives of most of us around the world, so here's hoping they come out as most of the rest of the world (I suspect) wants.

Would you rather Bush started to panic and start screaming.  What was he supposed to do until they had more information?  Seven minutes is a long time?  Maybe he should have screamed out "We are at war!" kicked over a desk and ran out.

At least read this to get the other side:

There is a lot to be critical about from this administration, but this film is very misleading.

Posted by Rob Isaacs at Mon Aug 2 17:07:30 2004

Rob, actually what I found funny of the scene was the blank expression in his face. It reminded me of Homer Simpson. My sister and I thought he must have been thinking... "Uuummh. Airplanes. Towers. Attack... hmm.... what to do... IDEA!! Let's get on with the goat story...". No, he should have not rushed out yelling "it's the end!", but he could have excused himself and start taking care about the crisis. He chose to sit for quite some minutes while his assessors were looking anxiously at him from the door (as shown in the film).

After reading part of the link you provided, I still think the movie is good. Have in mind I am European, one in the 94% of Spaniards that went to the street to say no to war. The "deceits" described in this document are mostly irrelevant to my eyes. I have already said Moor'es facts are presented in a populist way. He leaves out some details and pays more attention to others, but the core of the fact remains true. There's a difference between not liking the message's envelope and saying the message is a lie.

Posted by Jordi at Mon Aug 2 18:13:19 2004

Moore focused mostly on the affects on Americans and  did not interview any non-Americans because of the current climate here in the states:

Show sympathy for suffering Iraqis - > You are a "Bleeding-heart" liberal.

Show sympathy for suffering American troops->You are a patriot.

Consider dissenting views from outside America -> You are a traitor.

If he doesn't censor himself, he looses some of his audience. If he does, he leaves out some truth.

Posted by Erik M at Mon Aug 2 19:46:59 2004

What I found interesting in Rob's link is how well Moore is able to lead the viewer to a false conclusion out of several facts which are in and of themselves often true. Joseph Goebbels would be proud. There were a few flat-out lies, but they were not as interesting.

The sad thing is I think the deception by Moore was unnecessary. There is much to criticize about the Bush Administration with out being "clever."

By the way, regarding the expression on the Presidents face: I think many people when hearing of those horrible events on 9/11 had similar looks on our faces. I know it hit me like a truck. Who expected it? How knew what to think?

Posted by Aaron Ortloff at Mon Aug 2 21:00:38 2004

Bush was shiting there and did nothing.
Second plane crashed after 20 minutes or so.
But the goat was more interesting for him.
Now he raises security with information that is aged (3 years ago).
Or as John Stewart in "The Daily Show" said commenting about that stuff about postponing  US elections:

"This president might be thinking, under some circumstances to declare himself as Caesar"

It's rather disappointining seeing him yesterday talking about Patriot Act being more and more extented, and talking about Committees being cut off. [think Congress]

If world voted, Bush would get 25%.
I really hope US citizens realize that Bush is one of the worst presidents ever, and don't offer him 4 more years.

think WMD and then vote.

Posted by Nikos Kouremenos at Tue Aug 3 23:05:20 2004

What was shocking about the seven-blank-faced-minutes was:
1. Apparently this was not when he heard about the first plane. He heard about that before then he went into another publicity event. Then we see him hearing about the second plane and presumably starting to understand that this was some really serious shit. After the first plane and after the second plane, yes he should have been on the case. Walking out of the room would be just fine. Just sitting there and waiting for someone to tell him something more was not appropriate behaviour for the one guy who has the power to get stuff done.
2. He looks totally clueless and helpless. (Some of this footage might have been slowed down to exaggerate the effect)

Posted by Murray Cumming at Thu Aug 5 11:23:09 2004