My non-vote for the GDFDL position statement
[ 1 ] Choice 1: GFDL-licensed works are unsuitable for main in all cases
[ 2 ] Choice 2: GFDL-licensed works without unmodifiable sections are free
[ 4 ] Choice 3: GFDL-licensed works are compatible with the DFSG [needs 3:1]
[ 3 ] Choice 4: Further discussion
And vote.debian.org
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But I... I... only had two weeks to cast my vote! *sigh*, I suck.
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Quant a Ubuntutu
Embarrasing enough, Ubuntu has shipped a Catalan translation for the
very prominent About Ubuntu GNOME Panel menu entry which read
“Quant a Ubuntutu”. It’s been there for so long that irazuzta and I really
considered not fixing it at all for “hysterical raisins”.
Anyway, seb128 now has
a patch to correct this at long last in Ubuntu’s gnome-panel
. He
promised to include it in monday's 2.14.0 upload… seb: DON’T FORGET!
In the meanwhile, Jordi Irazuzta and I just finished setting up the
Ubuntu Catalan
Translators team, with the mailing of some detailed instructions on how
we want to get work done in the team.
It's been months of planning and designing a workflow to make a Ubuntu
translation team and the openness that
Rosetta offers to all the members
of a team fit in Softcatalà’s high
standards for the quality of the translations made by the organisation.
As soon as people start mailing back and get subscribed to the team’s
mailing list, they'll get tasks assigned and we'll get the team kickstarted,
with lots of work to be done before the Dapper release. The key for this
team’s success is that we educate our volunteers to contribute their Ubuntu
translations to the upstream projects or relevant Catalan teams, and that this
is somehow coordinated. The experience will be quite good for me to identify
some of the “social” problems with Rosetta, as many times people ask
if their translations for Ubuntu will appear in other distributions as
well.
The team is led, for now, by Jordi Irazuzta, lo noi de l'Ebre, and me.
If you're a Catalan Ubuntu user and want to lend a hand, you're more than
welcome to join the mailing list to help, and become a Ubuntaire!
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Catalan orthotypography
Ivan never has enough, and has
gone ways further on his «Escriu bé» quest. Following up on my
previous post
on the X.Org Catalan changes, he has posted a
list of characters
that he still misses in our layout, in order to type really correct,
orthotypograpically-wise, Catalan. Ivan, the king of nitpickers. :)
Toni also posted a
mini-HOWTO on how to
get your geminated l's look «aŀlucinants».
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L MIDDLE DOT in X.Org
English (Queen's English) is the only real language.
After this required short announcement by our main sponsor,
Daniel Stone, lets go ahead and
explain something of interest to the many Catalan X.Org users out there.
Ivan and I have been looking at the
issues that block a GNU/Linux user from using the
compound geminate L, Ŀ,
instead of the more usual “L·L” spelling.
The “ŀ” and “Ŀ” characters are unfortunately not included in ISO-8859-1,
so fonts were the first big problem we faced. When modern X desktops started
using True Type fonts by default, the de-facto free font in most distributions
became
Bitstream Vera
as soon as they were
licensed under a Free Software license
back in 2003. Bitstream did not include the Unicode glyphs U+013F
and U+0140, but some time after, chatting with
daf, I learned he was working on
Olwen, a Vera extension
which would add proper Welsh coverage. He promptly added the Catalan glyphs,
but Olwen never got widely exposed in distributions. Luckily, things are
changing lately. Due to the lack of bugfixes or new releases of Vera,
the list of Vera derivatives like Olwen started growing. The
DejaVu project is building a font
family, based on Vera, which merged many of these smaller purpose Vera
derivatives, including Olwen. DejaVu, is, as far as I know, slowly replacing
Bitstream Vera as the standard free, high quality true type font in free
desktops.
With the font blocker easily solvable now, the next problem was making the
input easy. Some terminals, such as GNOME's or rxvt, allow you to insert
Unicode typing a Unicode code point. The Spanish layouts don't provide a
shortcut for it though, and if you try to do Level3-Shift+l, you'll get a
Polish character, “ł”, that is of no use in neither Catalan, Spanish,
Galician, Basque or other languages in the Spanish state.
We wanted to replace that with ŀ, but when we had a look at it last Saturday
night during our stay in Bruxelles, we couldn't find what the name for
Unicode's U+0140/U+013F was in XKB-speak. So,
as I said, on Sunday I went
looking for Daniel and Keith to see if we would be clued up.
The solution is easy: there is no name mapping, but you can use Unicode in
0x100XXXX notation directly in your X config file to make it work. He tried
in his laptop, and why not, generated a patch for X.Org 7.0's
xkeyboard-config. Daniel can't be that good, so he forced me to
spread lies about the English language in this blog entry if we wanted the
patch
committed.
:) Support for X.Org 6.8 and 6.9 isn't planned, unless you bribe your X
maintainer to add a tiny patch.
This has been implemented as an "es" keyboard extension (named “cat”)
because other systems don't have that feature in the Spanish layout, and X.Org
wants to remain compatible with the rest. We'll have to add a
Option "XkbVariant" "cat"
option to our keyboard section in xorg.conf.
If you're not using X.Org 7.0, you might want to try:
xmodmap -e "keycode 46 = l L U140 U13f U140 U13f"
but I don't know if that'll work in all systems. To test in your keyboard,
that'll probably be “AltGr+l” or “AltGR+L”.
What we need to do now is to add support for the character in more fonts,
alternative spellings for words using the “ela geminada” (ie, “col·labora” and
“coŀlabora”) in dictionaries, wordlists..., and of course, teach users about
the avalability of this, and promote its usage.
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Catalan Debian-Installer milestones completed
During the last two months, the Debian Catalan localisation team has seen
two of their major milestones completed, after some tough work.
The group managed to release Sarge with a completely translated installer,
but failed to provide a translation of the
Install Manual,
which was a regression for us, as it had been available in Woody. We didn't
give up, and thanks to the stubborness of
Miguel Gea and braindmg we
slowly started translating the Sarge manual months after the release, so it
could at least appear in the website.
But progress was too slow, so we planned an online meeting for the
beginnings of the year to try to complete the translation doing a whole lot
of translations during a weekend. Soon after we learned that joeyh, fjp and
the d-i team wanted to terminate Sarge d-i manual support in svn RSN, as they
would start to make changes to the docs to reflect etch changes, but
fortunately Frans agreed to give us a slightly extended deadline, if we
agreed to finish the job by January 14th:
20:37 < CIA-7> debian-installer: fjp d-i * r33721
/sarge/installer/doc/manual/ca/: Add Catalan translation as
translators would like to finish it for Sarge and have promised
to do so 14 Januari 2006 at the latest
I really didn't think we would be able to make 100% in just 10 days, but
the team, assisted by a large number of minions^Wnew contributors that
volunteered on #debian-catalan, managed to do it I believe a few days before
the deadline. Guillem
announced it
on our list.
Releasing etch with an up to date Catalan manual will be
a lot easier, if
we try to maintain it up to date as etch development carries on.
The second milestone was yesterday's
completion
of the Catalan translation for all five levels of the etch debian-installer,
after a year of no translation activity on that front, and months of braindmg
bugging me to do my chunk of work. Although it's now showing a shiny 100%,
there's a lot of review work to do, and polishing it should be our focus for
the next release.
I seem to have recovered some of my interest in translations. That's good,
because GNOME 2.14 is around the corner, and it wouldn't be fair for Josep
if he ends up doing all the job. :)
Also, I've been quietly working with a group of people at
Softcatalà in a project that will
probably have lots of press in our community. It's not public yet though,
but I hope that it'll be announced in the next few weeks.
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Going to FOSDEM 2006
After several years of chickening out in the very last moment, I finally
booked plane tickets to Brussels for this year's
FOSDEM.
azeem, you can stop
calling me names now. :)
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"yes"
00:07 < jordi> vorlon: if you say yes, we can start right now
00:07 < vorlon> "yes"
And immediately, the magic started. sjoerd has uploaded the dbus/hal/avahi
tripplet to unstable, unlocking the door for GNOME 2.12 and KDE 3.5 to leave
their cold homes in experimental. Expect a few small bumps in the unstable
road over the weekend. The wait is finally over, after the Release Team
managed to get all the KDE C++ transition in place two days ago.
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GNOME's dbus 0.60 transition done
Following up on my
previous post,
here's a new status update of the whole GNOME situation.
Very soon after posting that roadmap, the two steps in the process were
completed, with the ftpmasters freeing dbus into experimental, and seb128 doing
a round of GTK+ family uploads. No big problems have been detected in GTK+ 2.8
in unstable, so those bits are going very well.
As soon as dbus 0.60 hit experimental, both the KDE and GNOME camps got
busy recompiling their stuff. KDE 3.5.0 moved from Alioth to experimental, and
sjoerd got busy in a recompile quest to make sure GNOME was installable again
in experimental. The dbus 0.60 transition in experimental was done in barely
a few hours, and some extra dbus-using packages have been transitioning since
then.
So, what's holding our unstable upload? We first need to wait for KDE 3.4
enter testing, thus clearing the major blocker for the C++ ABI transition.
The number of packages involved in this is so big it's not even funny, so it's
quite complicated. In short, the GNOME team is sitting on their hands watching
some C++ fun. There are a few more news bits though.
Last night, there was a round of experimental updates, bringing most of the
modules to their 2.12.2 versions (just 2 or 3 are missing now), and meta-gnome2
was again updated to support these versions. If you issue your usual
aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment, you'll pull newer
versions of most of the stuff, if that's the way you update your experimental
packages. Also, the gnome package now supports
gnome-screensaver. Give it a try, and be ready to purge
xscreensaver if you're happy with it!
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GTK+ 2.8 in unstable, and the GNOME 2.12 plan
The GNOME team has been sitting on top of ready-to-go GNOME 2.12 for way
too many weeks now, but unfortunately a series of planned and unplanned
transitions affecting unstable prevented us from moving them from experimental
to unstable.
Today's good news is that these transitions are either going well (C++)
or not at all (freetype upstream), so the release team gave us green light
to start a fun GNOME 2.10→2.12 transition. There are a few aspects in
this cycle that makes it a bit special and a bit more complex.
GNOME 2.12 in experimental uses dbus 0.50, which is API/bus incompatible
with the previous version in testing/unstable, so when we upload GNOME 2.12,
the new dbus will go in too. As KDE is also using dbus in a few places, KDE
and GNOME uploads will need to happen at the same time. To make it even better,
dbus 0.50 has been obsoleted by 0.60, which is again API and bus incompatible
with the previous version. The GNOME and KDE teams have agreed on the
following plan:
- The Project Utopia people have uploaded dbus 0.60 to experimental, and
is currently waiting in NEW.
- The mighty seb128 will upload GTK+ 2.8 and Pango 1.10 to unstable
RSN, so our first version of GTK using Cairo starts to get broadly tested in
architectures other than i386 and powerpc.
- Once dbus 0.60 is accepted in the archive, the GNOME team will rush to
recompile GNOME 2.12.2 against this new dbus, and test that everything is ok
with the new version.
At the same time, the KDE camp will upload their shiny KDE 3.5 debs, compiled
too against dbus 0.60, to experimental, for the first time.
- When everything has transitioned to dbus 0.60 in experimental, GNOME and
KDE will be uploaded to unstable.
- Vorlon will take a deep breath and will try to figure out how to get the
two monsters in testing at the same time. Vorlon, we love you. :)
This looks like it'll take months to do, but I really don't think it'll be
the case. We hope to be ready for a full GNOME 2.12 upload to unstable, at long
last, pretty soon. As always, the brave can still use GNOME 2.12 in
experimental with the usual
aptitude -t experimental install gnome-desktop-environment.
More updates as stuff happens!
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Installing GNOME 2.12 in Debian
GNOME 2.12 is mostly in experimental now (for i386, builds for powerpc are
very welcome), only missing a control center and gnome-panel upload, plus
gal being ACCEPTed so evolution 2.4 can be installed.
Trying these packages is easy: on an up to date unstable system, just
issue:
apt-get install -t experimental gnome-desktop-environment
Due to a dbus transition, you might get some packages removed if they don't
have an experimental build using the new versions. In many cases, there's
nothing we can do about it so it's a matter of waiting.
The good news is that KDE has finally entered testing, so I'd expect that
we'll be able to upload all of these packages to unstable quite soon.
Hopefully before April, when GNOME 2.14 is due. :)
Update: By the way, in case you're still cursing about that major
evolution breakage the other day... yes, it was totally me to blame. :)
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